The following article and interview have been published The following article and interview have been published in“Hunter Gatherer Research”, the international journal onhunter-gatherer societies, and both are open access. Noguchi, T, & Takada, A. (2024). Help to climb up: Impacts of moderneducation among the Gǀui and Gǁana. Hunter Gatherer Research Tanaka, J., Noguchi, T., & Takada, A. (2024)....